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Members present
Members present


Alicia Clark, Chair                          Paul Grant, Region 6
[[Alicia Clark]], Chair                          [[Paul Grant]], Region 6


Frances Eddy, Secretary                  Lynn Crussel, Region 7
[[Frances Eddy]], Secretary                  [[Lynn Crussel, Region 7


Sheldon Richman, Vice-Chair            Dale Hemming, Region 8
[[Sheldon Richman]], Vice-Chair            [[Dale Hemming]], Region 8


Vivian Baures, Treasurer                   Jim Johnston, Region 9
[[Vivian Baures]], Treasurer                 [[Jim Johnston]], Region 9


David Bergland, Prior Chair                Leslie Graves Key, Region 10
[[David Bergland]], Prior Chair                [[Leslie Graves Key]], Region 10


Michael Emerling, at-large                  Tom Bogel, Region 11
[[Michael Emerling]], at-large                  [[Tom Bogel]], Region 11


M. L. Hanson. at-large                      Matt Monroe, Region 13
[[M. L. Hanson]], at-large                      [[Matt Monroe]], Region 13


Chris Hocker, at-large                      David Walter, Region 14
[[Chris Hocker]], at-large                      [[David Walter]], Region 14


Andrea Millen Rich!, at-large            Jule Herbert, Region 15
[[Andrea Millen Rich]], at-large            [[Jule Herbert]], Region 15


Murray Rothbard, at-large                  Howie Rich, Region 16
[[Murray Rothbard]], at-large                  [[Howie Rich]], Region 16


Stephen DeLisio, Region I                  Jim Lewis, Region 17
[[Stephen DeLisio]], Region I                  [[Jim Lewis]], Region 17


Bill Evers, Region 2                          Clark Hodge, Region 19
[[Bill Evers]], Region 2                          [[Clark Hodge]], Region 19


Mike Hall, Region 2
[[Mike Hall]], Region 2


David Brazier, Region 3                        Members absent
[[David Brazier]], Region 3                        Members absent


Gary Palm, Region 4                              Kent Guida, at-large
[[Gary Palm]], Region 4                              [[Kent Guida]], at-large


Emil Franzi, Region 5                            Dick Randolph, at-large
[[Emil Franzi]], Region 5                            [[Dick Randolph]], at-large


Dale Pratt, Region 2
[[Dale Pratt]], Region 2


Alternates present                              Alan Lindsay, Region 12
Alternates present                              [[Alan Lindsay]], Region 12


Sara Baase, Region 2                          Michael Burch, Region 18
[[Sara Baase]], Region 2                          [[Michael Burch]], Region 18


Resignations since last meeting
Resignations since last meeting


Linda Taylor, Region 8                          Sandy Burns, Region 11
[[Linda Taylor]], Region 8                          [[Sandy Burns]], Region 11


1. CALL TO ORDER: The regular meeting of the Libertarian National Committee was called to order by Chair Clark at 9:10 a.m., August 7, 1982 at the Sheraton, Billings, Montana.
1. CALL TO ORDER: The regular meeting of the Libertarian National Committee was called to order by Chair Clark at 9:10 a.m., August 7, 1982 at the Sheraton, Billings, Montana.


2. CREDENTIALS: New Regional Representatives were seated. The Secretary announced that letters from the appropriate state chairs had been received for Tom Bogel and Dale Hemming and there was no objection to seating them. Region 11 will elect a new alternate in the fall.
2. CREDENTIALS: New Regional Representatives were seated. The Secretary announced that letters from the appropriate state chairs had been received for [[Tom Bogel]] and [[Dale Hemming]] and there was no objection to seating them. Region 11 will elect a new alternate in the fall.


3. REVISIONS TO AGENDA: There were no objections to the Chair's recommendation that 4 items circulated as an addendum to the agenda be placed as follows: Plans for municipal races in 1983 as item 16a, Ballot status plans for states for 1983-84 as item 13a, Minority Outreach Committee Report as item 11a, and Resolution to discontinue tape recording Nat Com meetings as item 32. Emerling's motion to add as item 30a for 5 minutes Boycotting San Francisco until the hand-gun ban is repealed passed 23-4-0 by roll call vote: For: Baase. Baures, Bergland, Bogel, Crussel, Emerling, Evers, Franzi, Grant, Hall, Hanson, Hocker, Hodge, Johnston, Key, Lewis, Monroe, Palm, A. Rich, H. Rich, Richman, Rothbard, Walter; Against: DeLisio, Eddy, Hemming, Herbert. There was no objection to Evers' motion to divide the time of items 4, 7, and 10 into periods for uninterrupted reports and question and answer sessions (4--20/25 minutes; 7-15115 minutes; 10-15/15 minutes). Evers moved to add as item 3a for 15 minutes
3. REVISIONS TO AGENDA: There were no objections to the Chair's recommendation that 4 items circulated as an addendum to the agenda be placed as follows: Plans for municipal races in 1983 as item 16a, Ballot status plans for states for 1983-84 as item 13a, Minority Outreach Committee Report as item 11a, and Resolution to discontinue tape recording Nat Com meetings as item 32. Emerling's motion to add as item 30a for 5 minutes Boycotting San Francisco until the hand-gun ban is repealed passed 23-4-0 by roll call vote: For: Baase. Baures, Bergland, Bogel, Crussel, Emerling, Evers, Franzi, Grant, Hall, Hanson, Hocker, Hodge, Johnston, Key, Lewis, Monroe, Palm, A. Rich, H. Rich, Richman, Rothbard, Walter; Against: DeLisio, Eddy, Hemming, Herbert. There was no objection to Evers' motion to divide the time of items 4, 7, and 10 into periods for uninterrupted reports and question and answer sessions (4--20/25 minutes; 7-15115 minutes; 10-15/15 minutes). Evers moved to add as item 3a for 15 minutes
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5. RESOLUTION CRITICIZING PRO-DRAFT STATEMENTS BY LP SPOKESPERSONS: Evers moved: WHEREAS in the past two years, Jennifer Roback, Ed Clark and San Steiger have each stated that retention of the draft is legitimate under some circumstances; WHEREAS the question has arisen as to whether paid staff or elected officers of the National Committee are the proper persons to intervene in such cases; THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee affirms that in cases of statements like those on the draft the responsibility for actively working to correct the situation lies with the National Chair and the National Committee; and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee criticizes the above-named individuals for making statements that may seriously mislead the American public as to the Libertarian Party position on the draft. Hocker moved Key's Resolution on Arizona Gubernatorial Candidate7s Support of the Draft: The LNC strongly urges the Libertarian Party of Arizona, an organization affiliated with the National Libertarian Party and pledged to uphold the LP Statement a+ Principles, to take immediate steps to ensure that their gubernatorial candidate, Sam Steiger, retracts his public support for the military draft and endorses the Libertarian position of unwavering opposition to registration and the draft. if Steiger, when asked, refuses to withdraw his support for the draft, we urge the Libertarian Party of Arizona to privately, and publicly if necessaryl demand that he withdraw from the race. We direct the National Chair to monitor this situation on behalf of the LNC, to encourage the Libertarian Party of Arizona to comply with this resolution, and to issue biweekly reports to the LNC until the situation is resolved. Discussion followed. Bergland's motion to table the item passed.
5. RESOLUTION CRITICIZING PRO-DRAFT STATEMENTS BY LP SPOKESPERSONS: Evers moved: WHEREAS in the past two years, Jennifer Roback, Ed Clark and San Steiger have each stated that retention of the draft is legitimate under some circumstances; WHEREAS the question has arisen as to whether paid staff or elected officers of the National Committee are the proper persons to intervene in such cases; THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee affirms that in cases of statements like those on the draft the responsibility for actively working to correct the situation lies with the National Chair and the National Committee; and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee criticizes the above-named individuals for making statements that may seriously mislead the American public as to the Libertarian Party position on the draft. Hocker moved Key's Resolution on Arizona Gubernatorial Candidate7s Support of the Draft: The LNC strongly urges the Libertarian Party of Arizona, an organization affiliated with the National Libertarian Party and pledged to uphold the LP Statement a+ Principles, to take immediate steps to ensure that their gubernatorial candidate, Sam Steiger, retracts his public support for the military draft and endorses the Libertarian position of unwavering opposition to registration and the draft. if Steiger, when asked, refuses to withdraw his support for the draft, we urge the Libertarian Party of Arizona to privately, and publicly if necessaryl demand that he withdraw from the race. We direct the National Chair to monitor this situation on behalf of the LNC, to encourage the Libertarian Party of Arizona to comply with this resolution, and to issue biweekly reports to the LNC until the situation is resolved. Discussion followed. Bergland's motion to table the item passed.


6. HEADQUARTERS REPORT: National Director Eric O'Keefe gave his report and answered questions. Evers quoted for entry in the minutes the following which he identified as being from a memo by Chris Hocker published in the June 1982 issue of Libertarian Vanguard: "I've occasionally heard some of us talk about what amounts to political retaliation against strongholds of pro-assholery. For example, that we do nothing to help the Texas LP this year because they're all going to vote against us anyway and we don't want to help strengthen their position .... So I would counsel against dispensing money, resources, advice, etc., only to 'our allies,' and instead to rule out internal political considerations when making decisions on whom to assist and how much." Evers continued: "My question is and I know privately in Bethesda I raised with you the fact that it seemed to me that some people were worried that discussions like this had been going on in the background and you assured me that wasn7t the case and I wonder if since then or before then have you been party to any discussions or know of any discussion with regard to this." O'Keefe replied, "I’m certainly not going to comment on any unsigned articles in disreputable publications." In a point of personal privilege Evers said "I believe Mr. Hocker will assure you those are his words."
6. HEADQUARTERS REPORT: National Director [[Eric O'Keefe]] gave his report and answered questions. Evers quoted for entry in the minutes the following which he identified as being from a memo by [[Chris Hocker]] published in the June 1982 issue of [[Libertarian Vanguard]]: "I've occasionally heard some of us talk about what amounts to political retaliation against strongholds of pro-assholery. For example, that we do nothing to help the Texas LP this year because they're all going to vote against us anyway and we don't want to help strengthen their position .... So I would counsel against dispensing money, resources, advice, etc., only to 'our allies,' and instead to rule out internal political considerations when making decisions on whom to assist and how much." Evers continued: "My question is and I know privately in Bethesda I raised with you the fact that it seemed to me that some people were worried that discussions like this had been going on in the background and you assured me that wasn't the case and I wonder if since then or before then have you been party to any discussions or know of any discussion with regard to this." O'Keefe replied, "I'm certainly not going to comment on any unsigned articles in disreputable publications." In a point of personal privilege Evers said "I believe Mr. Hocker will assure you those are his words."


7. TREASUIRER'S REPORT: Baures gave her report and answered questions until time was up. Baase's motion to extend time for 5 minutes passed.
7. TREASUIRER'S REPORT: Baures gave her report and answered questions until time was up. Baase's motion to extend time for 5 minutes passed.
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11. MAILING LIST COMMITTEE REPORT: Bergland gave his report, answered questions, and moved that the telephone numbers that the LNC owns will not be given to any other organization, except to state parties or LP candidates. After discussion, Bergland's motion passed. The Chair recommended that the Mailing List Committee get together and establish policies and bring them back to this body. Emerling's motion to recess for lunch for one hour passed at 12:35 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 1:50 p.m.
11. MAILING LIST COMMITTEE REPORT: Bergland gave his report, answered questions, and moved that the telephone numbers that the LNC owns will not be given to any other organization, except to state parties or LP candidates. After discussion, Bergland's motion passed. The Chair recommended that the Mailing List Committee get together and establish policies and bring them back to this body. Emerling's motion to recess for lunch for one hour passed at 12:35 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 1:50 p.m.


12. INTERNAL EDUCATION COMMITTEE REPORT: Walter gave his report, answered questions, and called on chairs of sub-committees for reports: Grant on Ballot Drives and Hocker on Candidate Schools. Walter announced he was appointing Geoffrey Steinberg of Pennsylvania to the Candidate School Subcommittee. Evers moved that 10 hours of one member of the staff should be devoted each week to seeing that the party has a platform study guide. Bergland"s substitute motion proposed that the Internal Education Committee prepare an introductory platform study guide as soon as possible. After debate, Hocker called the question and his motion passed. The motion to substitute passed as did the main motion, that the Internal Education Committee prepare an introductory platform study guide as soon as possible.
12. INTERNAL EDUCATION COMMITTEE REPORT: Walter gave his report, answered questions, and called on chairs of sub-committees for reports: Grant on Ballot Drives and Hocker on Candidate Schools. Walter announced he was appointing [[Geoffrey Steinberg]] of Pennsylvania to the Candidate School Subcommittee. Evers moved that 10 hours of one member of the staff should be devoted each week to seeing that the party has a platform study guide. Bergland"s substitute motion proposed that the Internal Education Committee prepare an introductory platform study guide as soon as possible. After debate, Hocker called the question and his motion passed. The motion to substitute passed as did the main motion, that the Internal Education Committee prepare an introductory platform study guide as soon as possible.


   
   
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20. CAMPAIGN '82 SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT: H. Rich gave his report and answered questions.
20. CAMPAIGN '82 SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT: H. Rich gave his report and answered questions.


21. PLANS FOR MUNICIPAL RACES IN 1983: There was no objection to Key’s request that this item be considered Sunday morning as item 26a.
21. PLANS FOR MUNICIPAL RACES IN 1983: There was no objection to Key's request that this item be considered Sunday morning as item 26a.


   
   
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22. EDITORIAL POLICY FOR LP NEWS COMMITTEE REPORT: Bogel moved that the National Committee adopt the LP News Policy statement Esee Appendix A] and that it be debated and voted on section by section. Debate followed. Herbert moved to amend Bogel"s motion to adopt the report of the LP News Policy Committee with the following deletions: paragraph 4.2, third sentence of 4.3, and 4.4. Hall moved to amend the motion so item 2.6, p. 2, second sentence will read "no articles will be published which contradict the LP Statement of Principles" instead of the "LP Platform." There was no objection to Johnston's suggestion to separate the two parts--voting on the whole after voting on the Herbert~s deletions and then have Hall present his amendment. DeLisio called the question and the vote to closed debate on the amendment passed. The vote on Herbert's deletions passed. Debate on Hall7s amendment's followed. Key motion to extend debate 5 minutes passed. The vote on Hall's amendment failed 12-13-3 by roll call vote: For: Baase, Bergland, Crussel, DeLisio, Emerling, Franzi, Grant, Hall, Hemming, Johnston, Key, Walter; Against: Brazier, Bogel, Evers, Hanson, Herbert, Hocker, Hodge, Lewis, Monroe, A. Rich. H. Rich. Richman, Rothbard; Abstain: Baures, Eddy, Palm. Rothbard asked his vote to be recorded as follows: "Although I voted against the Hall amendment, I favor a twoto-three month open discussion of platform issues in LP News before each national convention." Franzi desired to change his vote but didn't make the request in time. Herbert called for orders of the day. Baures moved to table this item until first thing tomorrow morning. After several points of order and discussion as to whether Baures' motion was in order, Baures moved to extend debate 10 seconds to make her motion. Her motion failed. Herbert7s motion to adopt the report as amended passed.
22. EDITORIAL POLICY FOR LP NEWS COMMITTEE REPORT: Bogel moved that the National Committee adopt the LP News Policy statement Esee Appendix A] and that it be debated and voted on section by section. Debate followed. Herbert moved to amend Bogel"s motion to adopt the report of the LP News Policy Committee with the following deletions: paragraph 4.2, third sentence of 4.3, and 4.4. Hall moved to amend the motion so item 2.6, p. 2, second sentence will read "no articles will be published which contradict the LP Statement of Principles" instead of the "LP Platform." There was no objection to Johnston's suggestion to separate the two parts--voting on the whole after voting on the Herbert~s deletions and then have Hall present his amendment. DeLisio called the question and the vote to closed debate on the amendment passed. The vote on Herbert's deletions passed. Debate on Hall7s amendment's followed. Key motion to extend debate 5 minutes passed. The vote on Hall's amendment failed 12-13-3 by roll call vote: For: Baase, Bergland, Crussel, DeLisio, Emerling, Franzi, Grant, Hall, Hemming, Johnston, Key, Walter; Against: Brazier, Bogel, Evers, Hanson, Herbert, Hocker, Hodge, Lewis, Monroe, A. Rich. H. Rich. Richman, Rothbard; Abstain: Baures, Eddy, Palm. Rothbard asked his vote to be recorded as follows: "Although I voted against the Hall amendment, I favor a twoto-three month open discussion of platform issues in LP News before each national convention." Franzi desired to change his vote but didn't make the request in time. Herbert called for orders of the day. Baures moved to table this item until first thing tomorrow morning. After several points of order and discussion as to whether Baures' motion was in order, Baures moved to extend debate 10 seconds to make her motion. Her motion failed. Herbert7s motion to adopt the report as amended passed.


REPORT FROM ADVERTISING/PUBLICATIONS REVIEW COMMITTEE: Bergland gave his report and answered questions. Hocker moved that recommendations appearing in LP News for the study of Internal Education material not produced by the LP shall be accompanied by a disclaimer to the effect that they may contain material inconsistent with the LP Platform. The only authoritative statement of LP positions is contained in its platform. Hocker’s motion passed. Herbert moved to adjourn until 9 a.m. Emerling moved to amend Herbert’s motion to adjourn to meet at 8 a.m. Evers moved to make the time 8;30 a.m. after item 20. Bergland's point of order that Hall7s motion was out of order as an argument against Herbert's motion was accepted by the Chair. The vote on Herbert's motion failed.
REPORT FROM ADVERTISING/PUBLICATIONS REVIEW COMMITTEE: Bergland gave his report and answered questions. Hocker moved that recommendations appearing in LP News for the study of Internal Education material not produced by the LP shall be accompanied by a disclaimer to the effect that they may contain material inconsistent with the LP Platform. The only authoritative statement of LP positions is contained in its platform. Hocker's motion passed. Herbert moved to adjourn until 9 a.m. Emerling moved to amend Herbert's motion to adjourn to meet at 8 a.m. Evers moved to make the time 8;30 a.m. after item 20. Bergland's point of order that Hall7s motion was out of order as an argument against Herbert's motion was accepted by the Chair. The vote on Herbert's motion failed.


24. SCHEDULING DATE OF FIRST NATCOM MEETING OF 1983: Walter moved to have the first NatCom meeting of 1983 during the weekend of April 16-17. A. Rich moved to amend Walter's motion to hold the meeting the weekend of April 23-24. Evers moved to hold the meeting the weekend of March 12-13. Key's motion to closed debate passed as did Evers' motion by a 15-13 vote. Walter's main motion as amended, to have the first meeting of the National Committee during the weekend of March 12-13, 1983 passed 16-10.
24. SCHEDULING DATE OF FIRST NATCOM MEETING OF 1983: Walter moved to have the first NatCom meeting of 1983 during the weekend of April 16-17. A. Rich moved to amend Walter's motion to hold the meeting the weekend of April 23-24. Evers moved to hold the meeting the weekend of March 12-13. Key's motion to closed debate passed as did Evers' motion by a 15-13 vote. Walter's main motion as amended, to have the first meeting of the National Committee during the weekend of March 12-13, 1983 passed 16-10.
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25. SELECTION OF FIRST NATCOM MEETING OF 1983: Hall asked to yield the floor to Kate O'Brien who spoke on behalf of San Mateo as the location. Key moved to have the March 12-13, 19B3 National Committee meeting in San Mateo, California. After discussion, Key's motion to close debate passed as did her main motion. Emerling's motion to adjourn until 8:30 a.m. Sunday morning passed at 5:18 p.m.
25. SELECTION OF FIRST NATCOM MEETING OF 1983: Hall asked to yield the floor to Kate O'Brien who spoke on behalf of San Mateo as the location. Key moved to have the March 12-13, 19B3 National Committee meeting in San Mateo, California. After discussion, Key's motion to close debate passed as did her main motion. Emerling's motion to adjourn until 8:30 a.m. Sunday morning passed at 5:18 p.m.


26. DISCHARGE OF NATIONAL DIRECTOR: The Chair reconvened the meeting at 8:35 a.m. with an announcement: "The Chair this morning asked Eric O'Keefe for his resignation as National Director of the Libertarian Party and he declined. Therefore I regret that the Chair must announce that she has discharged Eric O’Keefe as National Director." See Appendix B for entire announcement.3 Key moved to have a 30 minutes agenda item to discuss this announcement. Key"s motion failed 12-13. The Chair asked for 10 minutes for discussion and questions and answers. Key noted that O'Keefe had his hand up and asked to hear his comments. O’Keefe spoke on his own behalf. After discussion Emerling called for orders of the day.
26. DISCHARGE OF NATIONAL DIRECTOR: The Chair reconvened the meeting at 8:35 a.m. with an announcement: "The Chair this morning asked Eric O'Keefe for his resignation as National Director of the Libertarian Party and he declined. Therefore I regret that the Chair must announce that she has discharged [[Eric O'Keefe]] as National Director." See Appendix B for entire announcement.3 Key moved to have a 30 minutes agenda item to discuss this announcement. Key"s motion failed 12-13. The Chair asked for 10 minutes for discussion and questions and answers. Key noted that O'Keefe had his hand up and asked to hear his comments. O'Keefe spoke on his own behalf. After discussion Emerling called for orders of the day.


Johnston's point of order cited Article VIII, Section 8, of the Bylaws, (The National Committee shall have control and management of all the affairs, properties and funds of the Party consistent with these Bylaws) as "a clear indication that this body is responsible for the management of the
Johnston's point of order cited Article VIII, Section 8, of the Bylaws, (The National Committee shall have control and management of all the affairs, properties and funds of the Party consistent with these Bylaws) as "a clear indication that this body is responsible for the management of the Party's affairs. It also authorizes Robert's Rules to cover incidences where the Bylaws are silent on particular issues.
 
Party's affairs. It also authorizes Robert's Rules to cover incidences where the Bylaws are silent on particular issues.


On page 403 Roberts says, and we are bound by these, it"s not a matter of advice, (As a general principle, a board cannot delegate its authority--that is, it cannot empower a subordinate group) or I might add Chair (to act independently in its name--except as may be authorized by the bylaws of the society].) Now that doesn't leave the Chair any room to go ahead and to take actions that effects the management of this body on her own behalf...." In a point of order Hall said he believed the member had made his point. Johnston continued raised a point of order and I insist that the Chair abide by the rules that this body, the parent body, has set down."
On page 403 Roberts says, and we are bound by these, it"s not a matter of advice, (As a general principle, a board cannot delegate its authority--that is, it cannot empower a subordinate group) or I might add Chair (to act independently in its name--except as may be authorized by the bylaws of the society].) Now that doesn't leave the Chair any room to go ahead and to take actions that effects the management of this body on her own behalf...." In a point of order Hall said he believed the member had made his point. Johnston continued raised a point of order and I insist that the Chair abide by the rules that this body, the parent body, has set down."
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Discussion continued. In a point of personal privilege Eddy stated, "it's my opinion that my rights may be violated in all this confusion and I'd like to have permission for the parliamentarian to make a statement on rights of the members of this body." There was objection to this request. After more discussion that Chair stated: "According with Mr. Herbert7s motion he wants to suspend the rules for this body to be able to appoint a new National Director instead of the Chair doing so and against resolutions that says that the National Chair is the only one that can bring a name to appoint a new national Director." Herbert said "that's not my motion, Madame Chair. I asked to suspend the rules so this body could give advice and consent to the Chair on the selection of a National Director." Eddy asked for clari+ication, "does that still mean that the Chair is the only one who has the right to submit a name for interim National Director?" Herbert replied: "How can my motion have any implication on that subject?" Eddy replied. slit does... Evers said, "It doesn't." Eddy said, "Ok, I accept that." The Chair said: "Ok, so it is clear now what we are voting on." Evers said, "Yes, it7s clear." The vote to suspend the rules to consider Herbert7s motion passed 25-3 For: Baase5 Baures, Bergland, Brazier, Bogel, Crussel, DeLisio, Eddy, Evers, Franzi, Grant, Hanson, Herbert, Hocker, Hodge, Johnston, Key, Lewis, Monroe, Palm, A. Rich, H. Rich, Richman, Rothbard, Walter; Against: Emerling, Hall. Hemming. Hall requested the record show "the fact that his nay vote on Mr. Herbert's motion to suspend the rules to advice and consent was motivated by the fact that despite extensive discussion the implications of the motion were unclear and not by any desire to impede discussion and consent to the Chair's appointment of Ms. Lanham."
Discussion continued. In a point of personal privilege Eddy stated, "it's my opinion that my rights may be violated in all this confusion and I'd like to have permission for the parliamentarian to make a statement on rights of the members of this body." There was objection to this request. After more discussion that Chair stated: "According with Mr. Herbert7s motion he wants to suspend the rules for this body to be able to appoint a new National Director instead of the Chair doing so and against resolutions that says that the National Chair is the only one that can bring a name to appoint a new national Director." Herbert said "that's not my motion, Madame Chair. I asked to suspend the rules so this body could give advice and consent to the Chair on the selection of a National Director." Eddy asked for clari+ication, "does that still mean that the Chair is the only one who has the right to submit a name for interim National Director?" Herbert replied: "How can my motion have any implication on that subject?" Eddy replied. slit does... Evers said, "It doesn't." Eddy said, "Ok, I accept that." The Chair said: "Ok, so it is clear now what we are voting on." Evers said, "Yes, it7s clear." The vote to suspend the rules to consider Herbert7s motion passed 25-3 For: Baase5 Baures, Bergland, Brazier, Bogel, Crussel, DeLisio, Eddy, Evers, Franzi, Grant, Hanson, Herbert, Hocker, Hodge, Johnston, Key, Lewis, Monroe, Palm, A. Rich, H. Rich, Richman, Rothbard, Walter; Against: Emerling, Hall. Hemming. Hall requested the record show "the fact that his nay vote on Mr. Herbert's motion to suspend the rules to advice and consent was motivated by the fact that despite extensive discussion the implications of the motion were unclear and not by any desire to impede discussion and consent to the Chair's appointment of Ms. Lanham."


Evers moved that "this body accept the appointment of Honey Lanham as interim National Director for not more than six months." Debate followed. Evers' motion by roll call vote passed 20-7-1: For: Baase, Baures, Bergland, Brazier. Bogel, Crussel, Eddy, Emerling, Evers, Franzi, Grant, Hall, Hanson, Hemming, Hodge, Lewis, Monroe, Richman, Rothbard, Walter; Against: Herbert, Hocker, Johnston, Key, Palm, A. Rich, H. Rich; Abstain: DeLisio. Key asked to "be recorded as saying, "I think that this is a tremendously serious mistake that the National Committee is making by consenting to this appointment. Also since I have the floor right now, if you could record the comments I make earlier too in that section."
Evers moved that "this body accept the appointment of [[Honey Lanham]] as interim National Director for not more than six months." Debate followed. Evers' motion by roll call vote passed 20-7-1: For: Baase, Baures, Bergland, Brazier. Bogel, Crussel, Eddy, Emerling, Evers, Franzi, Grant, Hall, Hanson, Hemming, Hodge, Lewis, Monroe, Richman, Rothbard, Walter; Against: Herbert, Hocker, Johnston, Key, Palm, A. Rich, H. Rich; Abstain: DeLisio. Key asked to "be recorded as saying, "I think that this is a tremendously serious mistake that the National Committee is making by consenting to this appointment. Also since I have the floor right now, if you could record the comments I make earlier too in that section."


27. COMPUTER OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE REPORT: Baures gave her report and answered questions. Baures moved that the Computer Oversight Committee be authorized to take steps necessary to make sure the LP headquarters has the capability to achieve #1, 2, and 3, in her list of priorities by January 1, 1983, with #4 and #5 completed by July 1, 1983. While #6 is a desirable function, unless it can be accomplished with very little extra expenses and hassle, it would be accomplished using a combination of a programable typewriter and the computer capabilities outlined in #1. #7 and 8 are outside the scope of projects suitable for the LP. [See Appendix C for items 1-81. Baures outlined 4 options open to the committee: (1) use outside house only for computer services; (2) keep the Data General equipment currently leased from Liberty Services and buy a software package to provide what we need; (3) keep the Data General equipment and contract, hopefully voluntarily, with someone who will design custom software; and (4) acquire some other kind of hardware and software or some combination of that. It was noted in order to exercise some of these options a 2/3 vote would be needed to terminate the lease with Dallas Cooley for software. Baures motion passed. Baures moved (as stated by Bergland) that this body gives authority to the National Chair to terminate the computer lease contract with Dallas Cooley upon the recommendation of the Computer Oversight Committee. The motion passed by voice vote with no dissenting votes.
27. COMPUTER OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE REPORT: Baures gave her report and answered questions. Baures moved that the Computer Oversight Committee be authorized to take steps necessary to make sure the LP headquarters has the capability to achieve #1, 2, and 3, in her list of priorities by January 1, 1983, with #4 and #5 completed by July 1, 1983. While #6 is a desirable function, unless it can be accomplished with very little extra expenses and hassle, it would be accomplished using a combination of a programable typewriter and the computer capabilities outlined in #1. #7 and 8 are outside the scope of projects suitable for the LP. [See Appendix C for items 1-81. Baures outlined 4 options open to the committee: (1) use outside house only for computer services; (2) keep the Data General equipment currently leased from Liberty Services and buy a software package to provide what we need; (3) keep the Data General equipment and contract, hopefully voluntarily, with someone who will design custom software; and (4) acquire some other kind of hardware and software or some combination of that. It was noted in order to exercise some of these options a 2/3 vote would be needed to terminate the lease with Dallas Cooley for software. Baures motion passed. Baures moved (as stated by Bergland) that this body gives authority to the National Chair to terminate the computer lease contract with Dallas Cooley upon the recommendation of the Computer Oversight Committee. The motion passed by voice vote with no dissenting votes.
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39. RESOLUTION OPPOSING U.S. GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT IN INVASION OF LEBANON: Richman moved WHEREAS President Reagan has offered to send U.S. Marines to war-torn Lebanon; WHEREAS the stationing of U.S. troops abroad violates the policy of nonintervention that is necessary to limiting the power of the U.S. government; WHEREAS the LP Platform calls for the withdrawal of all U.S. troops from foreign soil; WHEREAS such deployment is a tripwire that provides a ready excuse +or forcing the American people to go to War; WHEREAS the Middle East, which has continually threatened to draw Americans into armed conflict, is particularly volatile with Israeli forces in Lebanon; BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee strenuously opposes any plans to deploy troops in Lebanon or elsewhere in the Middle East.
39. RESOLUTION OPPOSING U.S. GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT IN INVASION OF LEBANON: Richman moved WHEREAS President Reagan has offered to send U.S. Marines to war-torn Lebanon; WHEREAS the stationing of U.S. troops abroad violates the policy of nonintervention that is necessary to limiting the power of the U.S. government; WHEREAS the LP Platform calls for the withdrawal of all U.S. troops from foreign soil; WHEREAS such deployment is a tripwire that provides a ready excuse +or forcing the American people to go to War; WHEREAS the Middle East, which has continually threatened to draw Americans into armed conflict, is particularly volatile with Israeli forces in Lebanon; BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee strenuously opposes any plans to deploy troops in Lebanon or elsewhere in the Middle East.


BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that U.S. troops now deployed in the Sinai should be withdrawn and all U.S. government military and economic transfers to the region should be terminated. Rothbard moved to amend Richman's motion by adding at the beginning of it "WHEREAS we deplore the Israeli mass killing of Lebanon." Emerling moved to amend Rothbard's amendment by adding to it "and deplore the PLO practice of using innocent-victims as human shields while practicing terrorism." Eddy's proposed friendly amendment to add "and Israeli" after "PLO" was not accepted. Bergland indicated his intention to, when in order, take the first 3 paragraphs of the original draft, and Emerling7s amendment, and add that to Richman motion. Rothbard agreed to accept Bergland's proposal as a friendly amendment to his amendment so the amendment read: "WHEREAS we deplore the Israeli mass killing of Lebanese and Palestinian civilians in the invasion a+ Lebanon, and deplore the PLO practice of using innocent victims as human shields while practicing terrorism, and WHEREAS the use a+ weapons, provided by the U.S. Government, in such aggressive action is prohibited by law, and WHEREAS the Libertarian Party platform calls for the cessation of all U.S. Government intervention in the Middle East. The vote on the amendment failed. The vote on Richman's main motion passed. The Vice-Chair assumed the Chair during Clark's absence.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that U.S. troops now deployed in the Sinai should be withdrawn and all U.S. government military and economic transfers to the region should be terminated. Rothbard moved to amend Richman's motion by adding at the beginning of it "WHEREAS we deplore the Israeli mass killing of Lebanon." Emerling moved to amend Rothbard's amendment by adding to it "and deplore the PLO practice of using innocent-victims as human shields while practicing terrorism." Eddy's proposed friendly amendment to add "and Israeli" after "PLO" was not accepted. Bergland indicated his intention to, when in order, take the first 3 paragraphs of the original draft, and Emerling's amendment, and add that to Richman motion. Rothbard agreed to accept Bergland's proposal as a friendly amendment to his amendment so the amendment read: "WHEREAS we deplore the Israeli mass killing of Lebanese and Palestinian civilians in the invasion a+ Lebanon, and deplore the PLO practice of using innocent victims as human shields while practicing terrorism, and WHEREAS the use a+ weapons, provided by the U.S. Government, in such aggressive action is prohibited by law, and WHEREAS the Libertarian Party platform calls for the cessation of all U.S. Government intervention in the Middle East. The vote on the amendment failed. The vote on Richman's main motion passed. The Vice-Chair assumed the Chair during Clark's absence.


40. RESOLUTION TO BOYCOTT SAN FRANCISCO UNTIL THE HANDGUN BAN IS REPEALED: Emerling moved a motion, which he fully supports, draft by Allen Hacker, WHEREAS the government of the City of San Francisco has chosen to deny its citizens the full exercise of their right of self-defense by legislating against the private ownership of handguns; WHEREAS the Mayor and City Council of San Franciso, in obvious disregard of the welfare of their neighbors and families, have exposed them to an increased likelihood of becoming victims of rape, murder, robbery and other forms of violence; WHEREAS these alleged protectors of the peoples' interests have significantly increased the difficulty of the people to muster an effective resistance to the never-to-be-neglected possibility of oppression by an ambitious military establishment, and WHEREAS the Libertarian Party, in principle and deed the unswerving champion of liberty in America today, holds that gg municipality or government may deny this right of handgun ownership; BE IT THEREFORE RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee condemns the Government of the City of San Francisco so long as the oppressive and dangerous handgun ban continues; and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee supports peaceful Civil Disobedience, i.e., the refusal to surrender or discard the arms legislated against, as a correct response and a gesture of loyalty to the intentions of framers of the Constitution of the United States of America. Debate continued until time expired. Hall's motion to extend time three minutes passed. The vote on Emerling's motion passed 8-7 with the Vice-Chair breaking the tie. Emerling requested that copies of the resolution be distributed to interested parties and government officials of the City of San Francisco.
40. RESOLUTION TO BOYCOTT SAN FRANCISCO UNTIL THE HANDGUN BAN IS REPEALED: Emerling moved a motion, which he fully supports, draft by Allen Hacker, WHEREAS the government of the City of San Francisco has chosen to deny its citizens the full exercise of their right of self-defense by legislating against the private ownership of handguns; WHEREAS the Mayor and City Council of San Franciso, in obvious disregard of the welfare of their neighbors and families, have exposed them to an increased likelihood of becoming victims of rape, murder, robbery and other forms of violence; WHEREAS these alleged protectors of the peoples' interests have significantly increased the difficulty of the people to muster an effective resistance to the never-to-be-neglected possibility of oppression by an ambitious military establishment, and WHEREAS the Libertarian Party, in principle and deed the unswerving champion of liberty in America today, holds that gg municipality or government may deny this right of handgun ownership; BE IT THEREFORE RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee condemns the Government of the City of San Francisco so long as the oppressive and dangerous handgun ban continues; and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee supports peaceful Civil Disobedience, i.e., the refusal to surrender or discard the arms legislated against, as a correct response and a gesture of loyalty to the intentions of framers of the Constitution of the United States of America. Debate continued until time expired. Hall's motion to extend time three minutes passed. The vote on Emerling's motion passed 8-7 with the Vice-Chair breaking the tie. Emerling requested that copies of the resolution be distributed to interested parties and government officials of the City of San Francisco.

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