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Does anyone have any articles or source material on whether or not the Pledge was intended to prohibit ALL violence against the state? It seems to me it does, otherwise that would seem to weaken Nolan's purpose.[[User:CarynAnnHarlos|CarynAnnHarlos]] ([[User talk:CarynAnnHarlos|talk]]) 01:03, 2 October 2017 (CDT) | Does anyone have any articles or source material on whether or not the Pledge was intended to prohibit ALL violence against the state? It seems to me it does, otherwise that would seem to weaken Nolan's purpose.[[User:CarynAnnHarlos|CarynAnnHarlos]] ([[User talk:CarynAnnHarlos|talk]]) 01:03, 2 October 2017 (CDT) | ||
== Timothy McVeigh == | |||
There are two sources for the false claim that McVeigh identified as a Libertarian. | |||
1. That he may have voted for Harry Browne in 1996. There is no evidence for this claim. It is entirely unsubstantiated and the reference to it was removed from wikipedia 6 years ago. | |||
2. That McVeigh said "I’m a libertarian." He literally did say that, but not in the political context. He was referring to vegetarianism vs eating meat. The context is that, in 2001, PETA tried to have McVeigh put on a vegan diet. PETA told the warden “Mr. McVeigh should not be allowed to take even one more life.” The warden of the prison refused, so PETA appealed directly to McVeigh to have his last meal be vegan. McVeigh wrote a letter back to PETA which said: | |||
: “Truth is, I understand your cause – I’ve seen slaughter houses myself – but I still believe in reasonable taking and eating of game (as an outdoorsman and hunter)… | |||
: “My one main problem with the ‘veg’ movement is this (besides the fact I’m a libertarian): Where do you draw the line and what standard is used to define that line? Those that are in it for the health benefits accept poultry and fish as edible. Where do those opposed to suffering stand? (Ever see a fish struggling out of water?) What about grubs/worms/etc.? (that chick on ‘Survivor 2.’) And finally, plants are alive too: they react to stimuli (including ‘pain’); have circulatory systems, etc.; so how about them? … To me, the answer is as the Indians believed: respect for the life you take to sustain yourself, but come to terms with your place in the ‘food chain’. | |||
Wikipedia removed the reference to McVeigh as a libertarian in 2010, when the context was discovered. | |||
Timothy McVeigh was a registered Republican. If there is going to be any reference to him at all on this site, that reference ought to make clear that there is no evidence that McVeigh had anything to do with libertarianism or the Libertarian Party. [[User:AJPEG|AJPEG]] ([[User talk:AJPEG|talk]]) 03:53, 10 January 2021 (CST) | |||