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 Hello? Unfortunately, I won't be able to partake in that meeting, although please feel free to email me with any questions that may arise during the meeting about myself, if any do, and I'll respond to it as soon as possible. Thank you, [[User:Vermont|Vermont]] ([[User talk:Vermont|talk]]) 18:53, 13 July 2019 (CDT)
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+'''1.''' I am a partisan. I try to be as accurate as possible. But LPedia is a party resource and I do not consider myself under any obligation to present that accurate information in an unbiased manner. For example, I've seen it debated on wikipedia whether more recent information should be listed first, because it is more relevant, or whether older information should be listed first, because listing it out chronologically from oldest to newest is more encyclopedic.
+I honestly don't give a shit either way. That's an argument for wikipedia. I always list more recent election years first and elections from the party's early years last. Why? Because more recent elections generally have better results. That impression matters.
+The same line of thinking applies to [[List of Public Officials who Joined the Libertarian Party while in Office]]. The 2016 - 2019 years have more conversions and at higher level offices than the early years. As a partisan, I want the first view to be of the information that presents the party in the best light. Do you not?
+On a side note, why did you change "This list is very incomplete, especially prior to January, '''2008''' " to "This list is very incomplete, especially prior to January, '''2000''' "? There was a reason it said January, 2008. I went through all of the "News" and "Features" listed on the Libertarian Party web site. They stop in late 2007. Did you do any sort of research on the period between January 2000 and December 2007 to rule out other instances of party switching? I wouldn't count on LP News. There are plenty of examples of party switches in recent years that never made LP News. I added a few party-switches mentioned in earlier editions of LP News, but there is no reason to think that earlier editions were any better than later editions. I would not assume the list is complete just on the basis of LP News.
+In the same vein, [[Sam Seder]] is an asshole troll who hates libertarians and has openly discussed getting the Libertarian Presidential nomination for the sole purpose of campaigning for the Democratic nominee. We have no obligation to give him free air time. That page should be deleted.
+And so should the page on [[Uses Of Platform To Attack LP]]. I can't even share the [[National Platform]] with people who I'm trying to encourage to join the Libertarian Party because someone put a link to the [[Uses Of Platform To Attack LP]] page on it. "Hey, here's a link to that issue you and the LP agree on, and it's got all of the historical platforms so you can see how consistent we've been on that over the years. Just ignore that part at the bottom where we provide a space for our ideological enemies to call us pedophiles." No. It was a bad idea to put that link on the [[National Platform]] page and it was straight up retarded to create the page in the first place. Honestly, if I had seen it before you got here, I would have waited until Strangelv was asleep for a few weeks and then blanked the page in the middle of 200 revert-vandalism edits, hoping he wouldn't catch it.
+It should be deleted immediately. And I say that as someone who does not want to delete anything libertarian. But Sam Seder and Uses of Platform To Attack LP are not libertarian - they are anti-libertarian. Only a moron gives their opponents free ammo to use against them.
+'''2.''' You just took a bunch of pages which were either complete or close to it and turned them into junk.
+List of Libertarians Elected to Office in 2019<br>
+List of Libertarians elected to office in 2018<br>
+List of Libertarians elected to office in 2017<br>
+List of Libertarians Elected to Office in 2016<br>
+List of Libertarians Elected to Office in 2015<br>
+List of Libertarians Elected to Office in 2014<br>
+List of Libertarians Elected to Office in 2013<br>
+List of Libertarians Elected to Office in 2012<br>
+List of Libertarians Elected to Office in 2011<br>
+List of Libertarians Elected to Office in 2010<br>
+Those were complete or very close to being complete in accordance with the title of the page: '''elected''' to office. But as a list of Officeholders by year? Even including those who switched parties, they are, at best, one quarter complete. In other words, the new title you gave it makes the LP appear 75% worse than it actually is. That impression matters. There are no appointments listed and most of the people elected serve for multiple years. It is very difficult just attempting to keep track of local election results. My personal list has been more complete (and much more accurate) than what the national party has put out for the last several years. But also attempting to keep track of appointments and when all of their terms expire is impossible. Even the national party, which presumably gets fed some of that info from state and local parties, if not the officeholders themselves, has made a mess of it. They've been trying to do it for decades and their list is still riddled with all sorts of errors - failing to remove officeholders who switch to another party, failing to remove officeholders when their terms expire, forgetting to add elected or appointed candidates, classifying appointments as elected officeholders - it's just a mess. And it could not be done correctly even if there was a representative from every state providing input on it to LPedia. But calling a list of elected Libertarians by year a list of officeholders by year shouldn't even qualify as a bad attempt at completeness.
+[[User:AJPEG|AJPEG]] ([[User talk:AJPEG|talk]]) 02:49, 6 October 2019 (CDT)