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                              MINUTES OF LIBERTARIAN
                    NATIONAL COMMITTEE MEETING IN PHILADELPHIA, PA
       
       
       
                                Members Present
       
       David Walter, Chair              I. Dean Ahmad, Secretary           
       David Bergland, Vice-Chair       Robert Murphy, At-large           
       Tonie Nathan, At-large           Gerry Walsh, At-large              
       Don Ernsberger, At-large
       Willie Marshall, Region 1        Ted Brown, Region 2
       Sharon Ayres, Region 2           Mark Hinkle, Region 2              
       Lyn Sapowsky-Smith (Alt.)        Darlene Brinks (Alt.), Region 2 
       Joe Dehn, Region 3               John Famularo, Region 5
       Gary Johnson, Region 6           Steve Dasbach, Region 7
       Steve Givot, Region 7            William Hall, Region 9
       Bobby Yates Emory, Region 11     Paul H. Kunberger, Region 11       
       Vicki Kirkland, Region 12        T. David Hudson, Region 12         
       
       
       1.   CALL TO ORDER:  The regular meeting of the Libertarian National Committee 
            was  called to order by Chair David Walter on August 30, 1989 at 2:12 EDT 
            at Franklin Plaza Wyndham hotel in Philadelphia, PA.
       
       2.   CREDENTIALS  --  Roll  call.  18  members  present--rest  arrived  during 
            meeting.
       
       3.   APPROVAL  OF PREVIOUS MINUTES:  The Secretary asked that the  minutes  be 
            adopted as corrected by the report circulated with the agenda. There  was 
            no objection ->to accepting the minutes as corrected.
       
       4.   REPORT  ON MAIL BALLOT:  The Secretary presented the mail  ballot  report 
            distributed with the agenda as corrected in a subsequent mailing.  Robert 
            Murphy  was  not removed as the ballot failed:  19 vote FOR,  6  AGAINST.  
            The  Secretary  responded questions he had received  before  the  meeting 
            pointing  out  that mail ballots should have gone out to  the  alternates 
            according  to Resolution 14, and his failure to send them  placed  Murray 
            Rothbard's vote in question, but would not have affected the outcome.  In 
            the  case of Honey Lanham, the Secretary reported that she  had  resigned 
            from the Judicial Committee by the action of voting, a resignation  since 
            formalized  and  she  remains the alternate from Texas.   None  of  these 
            clarifications changed the outcome that it failed.  
       
            Murphy  moved->to  suspend the rules to prohibit  divulging  mail  ballot 
            results until the vote is final.  The motion to suspend the rules failed.  
       
       5.   SETTING  THE AGENDA:  Brown moved ->item 6A be deleted and 11A  (10  min)  
            Procedures  for  Mail  Ballots be added. Bergland moved->  to  amend  the 
            motion to make it 34A.  Bergland's amendment passed on a voice vote.  The main  motion 
            passed  as  amended.   Nathan  moved -> to  add  24A  Report  of  Program 
            Corrections  (5  min.)   Emory moved ->to add 24B  (5  min.)   Ernsberger 




            moved-> to add 34B Resolution on the Chinese Student movement.  There was 
            no objection to the agenda revisions.
       
       6.   CHECK OF PAPERWORK:  Chair David Walter reviewed paperwork needed for the 
            meeting. 
       
       7.   CHAIR'S  REPORT:   Walter reported that: the ExecCom  has  met  regularly 
            every  two weeks; income is up and expenses are down; we are  running  at 
            93% of budget and 82% of budget respectively; we have done 4 direct  mail 
            pieces  since the beginning of the year, resurrected the torch club,  and 
            started  the  Presidents' and VP's club; pledges are  over  $12,000/month 
            from  over  700  people;  Alexis Thompson's fundraising  is  place;   FEC 
            reports have been filed on time with no fines;  membership has  increased 
            rather  than  downslid  in the post-election year as in  years  past;   a 
            mailing  went  to  LP  News only subscribers and  more  mailings  are  in 
            progress.    In response to a query by Kunberger,  Ernsberger  summarized 
            the  settlement with Alexis Thompson, which Ernsberger  characterized  as 
            fair.
       
       8.   TREASURER'S REPORT:  Fielder's written report was distributed (Attachment 
            A).  
       
       9.   EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE REPORT:  Walter stated that the bi-weekly meetings by 
            telephone  had been successful and urged the succeeding NatCom to  follow 
            the practice.  Murphy moved 
                 ->  that minutes be kept of ExecCom meetings.  
            Dasbach opposed the motion on grounds that it should be addressed by  the 
            new ExecCom.  Murphy argued that NatCom members have a right to know what 
            goes on at the ExecCom meetings.  The motion passed 10-8.
       
       10.  HEADQUARTERS REPORT:  Dunbar delivered his report (Attachment B).  
       
       11.  RESOLUTION TO PROHIBIT VIDEOTAPING:  Ayres moved
                 ->  that meetings of the LNC shall not be videotaped, or  otherwise 
                 filmed,  except  by  consent of two-thirds  of  those  LNC  members 
                 present and voting.  Audio recordings of all LNC meetings that  are 
                 made  for  the  purpose  of preparing  the  LNC  minutes  shall  be 
                 destroyed after the meeting at which the minutes obtained from the 
                 audio recording are approved.  
            Nathan opposed the motion on the grounds that we should be proud of  what 
            we are doing and that when we are the major party the records will be  of 
            historical  value.   Murphy  argued that minutes  must  of  necessity  be 
            abbreviated  and  tapes provide a more complete  documentation  including 
            intonation,  etc.  Bergland noted that committee still  retained  control 
            over  this  matter but that the motion stiffens the requirement  for  it.  
            Hinkle  moved  to  extend debate 5 min.  There was  no  objection.   Dehn 
            expressed the view that the motion was inconsistent with the openness  of 
            the meetings manifested in the two preceding resolutions.
            The motion failed 14-6.  
            Ayres moved:
                 ->Others who wish to audio record the audio portion of LNC meetings 
                 must receive the permission of a majority of the members of the LNC 
                 present and voting.  
            The motion failed 11-5.




       12.  1989  CONVENTION  OVERSIGHT  COMMITTEE:   Ernsberger  urged  everyone   to 
            remember that we are on C-SPAN and conduct themselves accordingly.
       
       13.  FINANCE COMMITTEE REPORT:  Ayres submitted her report (Attachment C).
       
       14.  AUDITOR'S  REPORTS:  Redpath submitted an addendum (Attachment D)  to  his 
            previously circulated reports.  In response to a query by Murphy, Redpath 
            stated  that to the best of his knowledge the IRS may not approve of  our 
            accounting of payments to independent contractors.  Redpath noted that if 
            NatCom  required a more in depth auditing one could trace donations  from 
            NatCom  members  to the BAC.  In response to a query by  Brinks,  Redpath 
            stated  that her contribution showed on the master contributor list,  but 
            the particular donation could not be traced as no photocopies were  made.  
            In response to a query by Nathan, Redpath stated that a separate  general 
            ledger should be set up for the fund and all expenses documented.  Brinks 
            asked for a vote of thanks to Redpath [applause].  In response to a query 
            by Sapowsky-Smith, Redpath expressed the view that if SFACs can't be  run 
            properly  they  should  be done away with.  In response  to  a  query  by 
            Dasbach,  Redpath  stated  that "I don't think there's any  blood  to  be 
            squeezed out of this turnip," and that recovery of damages is negligible.  
            Givot  expressed  the view that the body needs a report  on  the  current 
            situation  before  taking action on proposed changes.  In response  to  a 
            query by Walsh, Redpath said that given the circumstances under which the 
            the  BAC operated he was surprised there were only four checks  made  out 
            cash.   In  response  to  a query by Murphy, Bergland  said  we  have  no 
            obligations  to FEC or IRS to report things, and Hall stated that we  have 
            no obligation to make additional reports except for possible refilings.
            In  response  to a letter received from Clifford Thies,  Walter  remarked 
            that  the  findings of the Audit show that accounting was poor,  that  an 
            untrustworthy  person had control over the funds, that we have been  made 
            whole,  that the first audit was correct, that the waste of resources  in 
            the BAC has contributed to the high expense of ballot drives and that  we 
            should  make  sure  we have qualified bookkeepers, and  that  people  are 
            innocent until proven guilty, and that when people have clouds over their 
            heads it is best to clear matters up as quickly as possible.
       
       15.  MANAGEMENT AND AUDIT COMMITTEE REPORT:  Walsh submitted his final  report 
            (Attachment E).  Walsh moved
                 ->that   the  bonus  pool  will  be  divided  among   the   eligible 
                 participants as follows:
                 1)   50%  will be distributed according to  payroll  dollar  ratios 
                 using the 1989 W-2s.  For example, an employee earning $10,000  of 
                 a  total payroll of $100,000 would receive 10%  of this portion  of 
                 the pool.
                 2)   50%  will  be distributed at the discretion  of  the  National 
                 Director  and the Chair based on merit.  The Chair will decide  the 
                 National  Director's  merit bonus, if any -- and the  Director,  in 
                 consultation with the Chair -- how the balance is to be divided.
                 3)   It is the LNC's intention that interns who work for the  Party 
                 during  the  year be given consideration for merit bonuses  at  the 
                 discretion of the Chair.
                 4)   The  bonuses will be distributed on or before February  15  of 
                 each year.




            The motion passed on a voice vote.
            Walsh moved 
                 ->to remove the words "Activists newsletter and" from Res. 105.  
            The motion passed on a on a voice vote.
            Walsh  moved  
                 ->to  substitute  for Resolution 288: Resolved, that  an  Affiliate 
                 Campaign  subcommittee of the Affiliate Party Committee be  created 
                 to facilitate candidate recruitment and support, and the collection 
                 and dissemination of election results.
            The motion passed on a voice vote.
       
       18.  AFFILIATE  CAMPAIGN  COMMITTEE:  Dasbach presented his  report  circulated 
            with  the  agenda.   In response to a query by  Walter,  he  stated  that 
            several states will concentrate on particular races.
       
       20.  GUN  OWNERS  OUTREACH PROGRAM:  Bergland moved 
                 ->Whereas  the Libertarian Party has a long standing opposition  to 
                 registration and restriction of firearms, Whereas registration is a 
                 prelude  to  confiscation,  Whereas confiscation is  a  prelude  to 
                 tyranny  and the purpose of the Second Amendment is to  protect  us 
                 from  tyranny,  Therefore be it resolved that the LNC  opposes  any 
                 registration and all restrictions on firearm ownership, manufacture 
                 and  sale.   Be  it further resolved that the  LNC  endorses  civil 
                 disobedience  as  an  appropriate  moral  and  practical  means  of 
                 resisting registration, confiscation and tyranny.
            The motion passed without objection.
       
       [Bergland assumed the chair]
       
       21.  MEDIA RELATIONS COMMITTEE:  Nathan  presented her report circulated  with 
            the  agenda.   In  response to her   questionnaire,  the  leading  factor 
            identified  has  justifying  media coverage was balance of  power  in  an 
            election.   Second  answer  was ballot status in a  majority  of  states.  
            Nathan  reported that  she has submitted a 5-page proposal  to  Nightline 
            for doing a show.  Nathan moved
                 ->the Chair shall hire a full time public relations director  whose 
                 duties shall be to formulate a long-range plan 1. to  increase  the 
                 visibility  of the LP as a substantial, important  and  influential 
                 national  political  force, 2. to supervise and  consult  with  the 
                 Advertising  &  Publications Committee, and 3.  to  facilitate  all 
                 communications  between the LNC, the Officers and the  headquarters 
                 staff and Media.
            The motion was tabled until the next meeting, without objection.
       
       21A (formerly  17).   AFFILIATE PARTY COMMITTEE: Gingell presented  her  report 
            circulated  with  the agenda and distributed reports  on   some  projects 
            (Attachment E).
       
       22.  INTERNAL  EDUCATION  COMMITTEE  REPORT:  Bergland  presented  his  report 
            circulated  with the agenda.  He noted that the committee has  no  budget 
            and  urged  the next NatCom to consider developing  something  along  the 
            lines of the Advocates for Self-Government model.
       
       23.  OUTREACH  COMMITTEE:  Bergland presented his report  circulated  with  the 




            agenda.   Bergland emphasized that we are going to be in the position  of 
            balance of power with our abortion rights position.  Sapowsky-Smith asked 
            how  often  Liberty Today would be updated.  Bergland replied  every  six 
            months  is the intention, but 4 times a year is possible if someone  will 
            do the work.
            Ahmad  noted that the Muslim Union, an ad-hoc group, has printed a  flyer 
            based  on  his article in the Liberty Today, touting a  Frazer  Institute 
            book  on Economics and Religion and offering copies of The Mainspring  of 
            Human Progress.
       
       23A formerly   19.   BALLOT  ACCESS  REPORT.   Givot  circulated   his   report 
            (Attachment F).  Emory reported allegations that a libertarian has turned 
            in  the NC LP to the state election commission complaining the 51  in  92 
            actions  are outside the law and sought information.  Givot replied  that 
            someone  has called the state but there is no evidence whatsoever  as  to 
            who it may be.
       
       [Walter resumed the chair]
       
       24.  PROHIBITION  OF EMPLOYMENT OF OR CONTRACTING WITH NATCOM  MEMBERS:   Ayres 
            moved
                 ->No employee or independent contractor of the National Libertarian 
                 Party  shall be a member or independent contractor of the  National 
                 Libertarian Party shall be a member or alternate of the Libertarian 
                 National   Committee.    Any  person  employed  by   the   National 
                 Libertarian  Party shall be terminated immediately upon his or  her 
                 election  to  the LNC.  Likewise, the contract of  any  independent 
                 contractor  (for  example those contracted to perform  direct  mail 
                 fundraising   or   telephone  fundraising)  shall   be   terminated 
                 immediately  upon his or her election to the LNC.  This  resolution 
                 shall be included in all employment agreements and contracts between 
                 the  National Libertarian Party and its employees  and  independent 
                 contractors.
            Givot  noted that companies almost always have employees on the Board  of 
            Directors.  Murphy expressed the view that without such a resolution  the 
            appearance of political payoffs is possible.  Dasbach noted that we  look 
            at such situations closely to insure that they are not political payoffs.  
            Walter  expressed  the  view that this resolution  would  gut  the  party.  
            Bergland moved
                 ->to  amend  by deleting "independent contractor"  from  the  first 
                 sentence and "otherwise the contract" and "contracts." 
            In response to a query by Dasbach, Bergland stated that the motion  would 
            not  apply  to state party employees.  In response to a query  by  Ayres, 
            Ahmad  noted that there is a distinction between vendors and  contractors 
            and  that vendors would be unaffected by this resolution whether  or  not 
            Bergland's  amendment  passed.  The motion to amend passed  11-8.   Givot 
            expressed  the  view that an abstention from votes on which  there  is  a 
            conflict of interest is sufficient.
            Murphy  moved
            ->  to amend the motion to the original form pre-amendment state  but  to 
            add in parentheses "(excepting independent contractors petitioning)."
            Murphy's amendment failed on a voice vote.  The main motion as amended by 
            Bergland passed 13-6.
       




       24A. PROGRAM  COMMITTEE.   The  committee  unanimously  approved  4  technical 
            corrections to the  Program Committee Report.
       
       24B. BUDGET  COMMITTEE:   Dasbach moved->to suspend the rules to take  up  the 
            Budget Committee Report.  There was no objection.  
            Fielder moved 
                 ->that  the 1989 LNC budget be amended as follows: to decrease  the 
                 budget  line item for equipment  rental by $7300 from $7300 to  $0; 
                 to increase the budget line item for equipment maintenance from  by 
                 $1500  from  $2500 to $4000, to increase the budget line  item  for 
                 printing by $4000 from $4000 to $8000, to increase the budget  line 
                 item  for  supplies by $1500 from $6000 to $7500, to  increase  the 
                 budget line item for the 800 line by $300 from $3000 to $3300.  
            The motion passed on a voice vote.
            Dasbach  moved 
                 ->  to favorably recommend to the next committee: to  expend  $2500 
                 for purchase of an AT for the director.
            The  motion  passed  9-0.  Bobby Emory abstained due  to  a  conflict  of 
            interest.  
            Dasbach moved 
                 ->to favorably recommend to the next committee: to expend $1000 for 
                 FAX machine.
            The motion passed 11-0.  
            Dasbach moved 
                 ->to  favorably recommend to the next committee: to expend  $18,000 
                 for a media relations director; 
            The motion passed 8-1.
            Dasbach moved 
                 ->to favorably recommend to the next committee: to expend $400  for 
                 monochrome monitors to replace current CGA.
            The  motion  passed  8-0.  Bobby Emory abstained due  to  a  conflict  of 
            interest.
            Dehn abstained on the preceding four votes on the grounds that it  should 
            be left to the next NatCom.
       
       [Bergland assumed the chair]
       
       25.  CIVIL  DISOBEDIENCE:   Walter solicited input on Civil  Disobedience.   In 
            response to a query by Hinkle, Bergland said we must beware of violations 
            of RICO.
       
       26.  CENSUS RESISTANCE 1990:  Walter expressed the  view that the LP could lead 
            on  this  issue  and  do well in  community  type  action  leaving  cards 
            indicating action and getting a bill into Congress.
       
       27.  ADVERTISING  DEVELOPMENT  COMMITTEE REPORT:  Bergland  reported  that  the 
            committee has no chair.
       
       28.  LEGAL  ACTION  COMMITTEE  REPORT: Hall  presented  his  report  previously 
            circulated (Attachment G).  Hall moved
                 ->WHEREAS the members of the Libertarian National Committee deem it 
                 to be of the utmost value and importance to the discharge of  their 
                 duties,  and  the  duties  of the officers  and  employees  of  the 
                 Libertarian  Party,  that  heir dealings  with  one  another  on 




                 Libertarian  Party  matters   be  carried on in  an  atmosphere  of 
                 trust,  mutual  respect and regard for honesty, with  no  taint  of 
                 personal advantage or other impropriety;
                 NOW,  THEREFORE,  BE IT RESOLVED that it shall be  the  affirmative 
                 responsibility  of  each NatCom member, and each Party  officer  or 
                 employee,  to  disclose  to  the  NatCom  in  connection  with  the 
                 performance  of their respective duties: (a) if such  person's  own 
                 economic  or other interests might conflict with the  interests  of 
                 the Party in the discharge of such duties; or (b) if such  person's 
                 duty  to others might conflict with the interests of the  Party  in 
                 the discharge of such duties.
                 Any such disclosure shall be made at the earliest opportune moment, 
                 prior  to  the discharge of such duties and clearly set  forth  the 
                 details of the conflict of interest; and
                 BE  IT  FURTHER RESOLVED, that a NatCom member,  Party  officer  or 
                 employee  shall  not: (a) transact business  with  the  Libertarian 
                 Party unless the transaction is fair and equitable to the Party; or 
                 (b) use information gained in the discharge of Party duties to  the 
                 disadvantage of the Party.
            The motion passed on a voice vote.
            Hall moved
                 ->that the LP participate in the lawsuit of the Committee for Party 
                 Renewal.
            The motion passed on a voice vote.
                 ->that  the  LP file an amicus brief in an existing case  aimed  at 
                 striking  down postal service restrictions on petitioning  on  post 
                 office sidewalks.
            The motion passed on a voice vote.
       
       30.  COMPUTER  COMMITTEE REPORT:  Famularo recommended reevaluating purpose  of 
            this committee, moving toward system management.
       
       31.  COMPUTER AUDITOR'S REPORT:  Hinkle urged reported on the inadequacy of our 
            present  screens  and  the  continuing search  for  the  missing  Okidata 
            printer.
       
       32.  MAILING LIST COMMITTEE REPORT:  Johnson reported that a coin company which 
            had  a check bounce had a plausible explanation and they would be  rented 
            the list. 
       
       34.  ADVERTISING/PUBLICATIONS  REVIEW  COMMITTEE REPORT:  Brown  gave  an  oral 
            report.
       
       34A.  MAIL BALLOT PROCEDURES:  Brown moved 
                 ->the  vote  totals and information concerning mail  ballots  shall 
                 remain confidential until after the due date of the mail ballot.
            Kunberger  noted that if the vote is known, pressure, e.g.  for  removal, 
            could  be  brought to bear.  Ahmad expressed the view  that  Kunberger's 
            call  for  less accountability went counter the feelings of  the  general 
            membership.  Hinkle noted that lobbying increases communication among the 
            members.  Murphy argued that keeping a running tally would require  daily 
            phone  calls and mail ballots are not the same as face to  face.  Dasbach 
            argued that we should have enough guts to stand up for our votes.
            The motion failed 9-9.




            Johnson moved
                 ->the  initiation of a mail ballot shall require the signatures  of 
                 at least five members of the National Committee.
            Johnson  indicated that procedures should protect against NatCom  members 
            being erroneously listed as supporters of mail ballot.  Dehn didn't  want 
            process  slowed  down by a requirement for physical  signatures.   Murphy 
            moved to extend time 5 min.  The motion to extend passed on a voice vote.  
            In response to a query by Emory, Ahmad stated that if a listed  supporter 
            denied  having  agreed to issue a mail ballot that would be  grounds  for 
            declaring the ballot null and void.  The motion  failed 7-8.
            Murphy  moved 
                 ->that  all  mail ballots shall be sent to all  National  Committee 
                 members by certified mail.  
            The motion passed 9-5.
       
       34B. CHINESE  STUDENTS:  This item was dropped on advisement that it would  be 
            presented to the Convention.
       
       35.  TIME  OF  NEXT MEETING:   There was no objection to  scheduling  the  next 
            meeting 15 minutes after close of convention business on Sunday.
       
       
       Murphy moved to adjourn.
       The meeting adjourned at 6:13 p.m.
       
       
       Respectfully submitted,
       
       
       Imad A. Ahmad
       Secretary
       
       
       Attachments:
            Attachment A:  Treasurer's Report
            Attachment B:  Director's Report
            Attachment C:  Finance Committee Report 
            Attachment D:  Addendum to Ballot Access Fund Audit Report
            Attachment E:  Affiliate Parties Committee Report
            Attachment F:  Ballot Access Committee Report
            Attachment G:  Legal Committee Report