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In November 2010, Seder began an independent online podcast, also called the Majority Report. The live talk-show format closely matches the previous Air America program, with politically oriented commentary by Seder and co-hosts and interviews with various guests. Seder offers listeners different tiered levels of access to content around the show via crowdfunding platform Patreon.
In November 2010, Seder began an independent online podcast, also called the Majority Report. The live talk-show format closely matches the previous Air America program, with politically oriented commentary by Seder and co-hosts and interviews with various guests. Seder offers listeners different tiered levels of access to content around the show via crowdfunding platform Patreon.


Seder also works as a periodic political contributor for MSNBC.<ref name=CNNHowAJoke>{{cite web|last=Kludt|first=Tom|last2=Darcy|first2=Oliver|url=http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/05/media/sam-seder-msnbc-mike-cernovich/index.html?iid=EL|title= How a joke, and Mike Cernovich, got Sam Seder booted from MSNBC|work=CNNMoney|publisher=Time Warner|date=2017-12-05|accessdate=2017-12-10}}</ref><ref name=MSNBCdupedbysmearcampaignofSederbyDateRapistMikeCernovich>{{cite web|last=O'Connor|first=Lydia|url=https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sam-seder-msnbc-fired_us_5a25c064e4b086e4e503ce2f|title=MSNBC Gives In To Disingenuous Right-Wing Smear, Fires Sam Seder|work=Huffington Post|publisher=Oath Inc.|date=2017-12-05|accessdate=2017-12-10}}</ref>
Seder also has worked as a periodic political contributor for MSNBC.<ref name=CNNHowAJoke>{{cite web|last=Kludt|first=Tom|last2=Darcy|first2=Oliver|url=http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/05/media/sam-seder-msnbc-mike-cernovich/index.html?iid=EL|title= How a joke, and Mike Cernovich, got Sam Seder booted from MSNBC|work=CNNMoney|publisher=Time Warner|date=2017-12-05|accessdate=2017-12-10}}</ref><ref name=MSNBCdupedbysmearcampaignofSederbyDateRapistMikeCernovich>{{cite web|last=O'Connor|first=Lydia|url=https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sam-seder-msnbc-fired_us_5a25c064e4b086e4e503ce2f|title=MSNBC Gives In To Disingenuous Right-Wing Smear, Fires Sam Seder|work=Huffington Post|publisher=Oath Inc.|date=2017-12-05|accessdate=2017-12-10}}</ref>
 
===Secret Service detainment===
On September 1, 2004, Seder was briefly detained by the United States Secret Service during his live, on-site coverage of the Republican National Convention at Madison Square Garden. Shortly after Zell Miller gave his speech, Seder began searching (with a sign in hand) on the convention floor for a willing homosexual Republican to interview live on radio. It was not long before he was physically removed from the floor and after brief questioning, was asked (or according to some, "strongly encouraged") to leave the convention. Seder later commented that his wearing of a lapel pin that he had been given by a Secret Service agent at the Democratic National Convention earlier that year had kept him from being ejected from the convention completely.
 
=== MSNBC controversy ===
On November 28, 2017, American alt-right social media personality, writer, and conspiracy theorist Mike Cernovich published a post on Medium<ref name=CernovichSmearMedium>{{cite web |last=Cernovich |first=Mike |url=https://medium.com/@Cernovich/msnbc-contributor-sam-seder-endorses-polankis-sex-crimes-in-now-deleted-tweet-22284b43abfb |title= MSNBC Contributor Sam Seder Endorses Polanki's Sex Crimes in Now Deleted Tweet |work=Medium |publisher=A Medium Corporation |date=2017-11-28 |accessdate=2017-12-10}}</ref> that resurfaced a deleted tweet Seder wrote in 2009 joking about convicted statutory rapist and fugitive film director Roman Polanski.<ref name=MSNBCdupedbysmearcampaignofSederbyDateRapistMikeCernovich/><ref name=TheWrapMSNBCCutTies>{{Cite news|url=https://www.thewrap.com/msnbc-will-not-renew-contract-with-contributor-after-roman-polanski-rape-joke/|title=MSNBC to Cut Ties With Sam Seder After Roman Polanski Rape Joke (Exclusive)|date=2017-12-04|work=TheWrap|access-date=2017-12-05|language=en-US}}</ref> The tweet read, "Don't care re Polanski, but I hope if my daughter is ever raped it is by an older truly talented man w/ a great sense of mise en scene."<ref name=CernovichSmearMedium/><ref name=TheWrapMSNBCCutTies/> Cernovich insisted the tweet proved Seder tacitly endorsed Polanski's sex crime.<ref name=CernovichSmearMedium/><ref name=WaPoIThinkTheyreafraid/> He then approached multiple journalists and news outlets, including MSNBC, to break the story.<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/><ref name=NYTMSNBCRehiresSamSeder>{{Cite news|last=Bromwich|first=Jonah Engel|url=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/07/business/media/msnbc-sam-seder.html|title= MSNBC Rehires Contributor Sam Seder: 'Sometimes You Just Get One Wrong'|date=2017-12-07|work=The New York Times|publisher=Arthur Ochs Sulzberger Jr.|accessdate=2017-12-10|language=en-US}}</ref>
 
Seder found out about the brewing controversy the same evening en route to a supermarket after being contacted by MSNBC Senior Vice President of Communications Errol Cockfield Jr. asking him to explain the tweet. Seder replied to Cockfield in an email explaining the point being made in the tweet and the context in which he wrote it. Seder also provided other tweets supporting his claim.<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/><ref name=WaPoIThinkTheyreafraid/>
 
The next day, on November 29, 2017, Seder received a voicemail from Cockfield indicating MSNBC's upper management was seriously considering cutting ties with him. Seder responded that MSNBC was making a mistake and that, "there's no story here." Seder further warned Cockfield that if they moved forward with the termination, "You guys are going to be the story." Seder also requested a formal termination email. Seder never received the email, leading him to believe that this employment status was still undecided.<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/><ref name=WaPoIThinkTheyreafraid/>
 
On Sunday, December 3, 2017, Seder was notified by Jon Levine of TheWrap that they had been contacted by MSNBC who had decided to terminate Seder's contract and were about to break the story through their own publication. Seder immediately sent Cockfield an inquiry regarding his status. Cockfield, at first, did not have a status update but later confirmed MSNBC was, in fact, dropping Seder.<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/><ref name=WaPoIThinkTheyreafraid/>
 
====Firing====
The next day, on December 4, 2017, TheWrap announced that MSNBC had elected to sever ties with Seder by not renewing his contract (due to expire in February 2018) due to the controversial tweet.<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/><ref name=MSNBCdupedbysmearcampaignofSederbyDateRapistMikeCernovich/><ref name=WaPoIThinkTheyreafraid/> Seder defended the tweet by pointing out that, taken in context of the current events around the time he posted it, it was a satiric response to a petition urging Polanski's release from detention in Switzerland.<ref name=MSNBCdupedbysmearcampaignofSederbyDateRapistMikeCernovich/><ref name=NYTMSNBCRehiresSamSeder/><ref name=CNNMSNBCRehiresSamSeder>{{Cite news|last=Kludt|first=Tom|url=http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/07/media/sam-seder-msnbc-rehired/index.html|title= MSNBC decides to bring back Sam Seder after controversy|date=2017-12-07|work=CNNMoney|publisher=Time Warner|accessdate=2017-12-10|language=en-US}}</ref> That he was, in fact, mocking Polanski's apologists.<ref name=WaPoIThinkTheyreafraid/><ref name=TheInterceptMSNBCrehiresSeder>{{cite web |last=Grim |first=Ryan |url=https://theintercept.com/2017/12/07/sam-seder-msnbc-reverses-decision-to-fire-contributor-sam-seder/?comments=1#comments/|title=MSNBC Reverses Decision to Fire Contributor Sam Seder |work=The Intercept |publisher= First Look Media |date=2017-12-07 |accessdate=2017-12-10}}</ref> An anonymous MSNBC source defended the termination, "It gives us pause when we see alt-right figures whipping up attention about our action but the reality is Seder made a rape joke."<ref name=WaPoIThinkTheyreafraid/> After news of the termination broke, Cernovich released a Twitter video celebrating his triumph.<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/>{{#tag:ref|"Thank you to everybody who emailed MSNBC," Cernovich said in a video he posted on Twitter. "Thank you to all of you. You're heroes. You're heroes because you emailed MSNBC and you let them know about the tweet. You let them know the people will be heard."<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/>|group=N}}
 
By then, Seder noted that advertisers on ''The Majority Report with Sam Seder'' podcast were also being contacted and pressured by Cernovich and his team to cut ties with the show over the tweet.<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/> In response, Seder launched a GoFundMe campaign to help maintain funding for the show in the face of potential loss of advertising revenue.<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/> In an episode of the podcast titled, "I'm Under Attack By the Nazi Alt-Right", Seder said, "this smear involves the willful misinterpretation of a tweet that I posted in 2009" and that he will "never be ashamed of criticizing those who would excuse the predation of women or girls."<ref name=MSNBCdupedbysmearcampaignofSederbyDateRapistMikeCernovich/><ref name=WaPoIThinkTheyreafraid/>
 
Seder revealed plans to use a portion of the GoFundMe proceeds to produce a three-minute video educating people on Cernovich's tactics.<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/> He surmised Cernovich's ploy had been retribution for his frequent criticism of US President Donald Trump as well as Republican Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore who was accused of sexual assault.<ref name=MSNBCdupedbysmearcampaignofSederbyDateRapistMikeCernovich/><ref name=NYTMSNBCRehiresSamSeder/>{{#tag:ref|Seder explained Cernovich's ploy thusly: "If they succeed in getting me fired or scaring my advertisers away, they will continue until they have silenced anyone who'd criticize Roy Moore, criticize President [Donald] Trump or criticize the conservative movement."<ref name=MSNBCdupedbysmearcampaignofSederbyDateRapistMikeCernovich/>|group=N}} Further, Seder chided MSNBC's decision to terminate his employment concluding, "I think they're afraid of those people."<ref name=WaPoIThinkTheyreafraid>{{Cite news|last=Wemple|first=Erik|url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/12/05/msnbc-is-cutting-ties-with-sam-seder-i-think-theyre-afraid-of-mike-cernovich-co-he-says/|title=MSNBC is cutting ties with Sam Seder. 'I think they're afraid' of Mike Cernovich & Co., he says.|date=2017-12-05|work=[[Wikipedia:The Washington Post|The Washington Post]]|publisher=[[Wikipedia:Fred Ryan|Fred Ryan]]|accessdate=2017-12-10|language=en-US}}</ref>{{#tag:ref|"According to Seder, he and MSNBC management never had a serious discussion about the tweet, what it meant and whether it posed a problem for MSNBC social-media standards. "If there was any conversation about the tweet," says Seder, "it had nothing to do with substance. It was, 'This is blowing up.'" And from what Seder can tell, his position with the network didn't much concern the company's top managers. "I only spoke to the PR guy and they only fired me after there was an imminent story," says Seder. An MSNBC spokesman responds that the company requested Seder's written defense of his tweet, and then considered that defense in reaching its decision on the contract renewal. Seder's conclusion: "I think they're afraid of those people."<ref name=WaPoIThinkTheyreafraid/>|group=N}}
 
{{Quote box|quote=This was mind-bogglingly stupid, a real textbook case of how not to handle 'controversy' ... Seder was taking the side of abuse victims. |source=—Washington Post reporter David Weigel on MSNBC's decision to fire Seder.<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/>|salign=center |width=25% |align=left |style=padding:8px;}}
The news of Seder's dismissal received immediate backlash throughout the country.<ref name=MSNBCdupedbysmearcampaignofSederbyDateRapistMikeCernovich/><ref name=SPINMSNBCRehiresSamSeder>{{Cite news|last=Salisbury|first=Drew|url=https://www.spin.com/2017/12/msnbc-rehires-sam-seder-mike-cernovich-tweet/|title= MSNBC Rehires Sam Seder After Stupidly Firing Him for Satirical Tweet|date=2017-12-07|work=Spin|publisher=Eldridge Industries|accessdate=2017-12-10|language=en-US}}</ref> Over 12,000 people signed a petition protesting Seder's termination, arguing that Cernovich had acted in malice and was deliberately mischaracterizing the tweet.<ref name=NYTMSNBCRehiresSamSeder/><ref name=PoliticoMSNBCrehiresSeder>{{cite web |last=Lima |first=Christiano |url=https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/07/msnbc-rehires-sam-seder-285332|title= MSNBC reverses course on firing contributor Seder after backlash |work=Politico |publisher= Capitol News Company |date=2017-12-07 |accessdate=2017-12-10}}</ref> AV Club wrote that "MSNBC has now fully bought into that smear campaign ... whose openly stated goal is the destruction of news outlets just like it through the use of blatantly manipulative trolling techniques.<ref name="AVClub">{{Cite news|url=https://www.avclub.com/msnbc-cuts-ties-with-sam-seder-after-giving-in-to-alt-1820993790|title=MSNBC cuts ties with Sam Seder after giving in to "alt-right" smear campaign|last=O'Neal|first=Sean|work=The A.V. Club|publisher=Onion Inc.|access-date=2017-12-05|language=en-US}}</ref> Mother Jones rebuked MSNBC for capitulating "to the demands of a lunatic conservative."{{#tag:ref|Mother Jones wrote: "thanks to the demands of a lunatic conservative, they cut off Sam Seder for a single lame joke made on Twitter in 2009."<ref name=MJLameJoke/>|group=N}} Huffington Post chided that Cernovich was now MSNBC's new "De Facto Ombudsman."<ref name=HuffPoDeFactoOmbudsman>{{cite web|last=Feinberg|first=Ashley|url=https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cernovich-sam-seder-msnbc-twitter-rape_us_5a26bb8fe4b06d807b4f6557|title=This Is MSNBC's De Facto Ombudsman|work=Huffington Post|publisher=Oath Inc.|date=2017-12-06|accessdate=2017-12-10}}</ref> MSNBC primetime anchor Chris Hayes tweeted, "The entire culture and our politics are now dominated by people who have weaponized bad faith and shamelessness."<ref name=MJLameJoke>{{Cite news|url=https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/12/msnbc-cuts-off-sam-seder-over-a-single-lame-from-joke-eight-years-ago/|title=MSNBC cuts off Sam Seder over a single lame joke from eight years ago|work=Mother Jones|publisher=Foundation For National Progress|access-date=2017-12-05|language=en-US}}</ref> Hayes tweeted several times against the decision by his own network, including: "Also, I reiterate my longstanding position that people shouldn't be fired for a tweet, *particularly* one that is obviously being read in manifestly bad faith."<ref name=NYTMSNBCRehiresSamSeder/><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/937792135205703687|title=Also, I reiterate my longstanding position that people shouldn't be fired for a tweet, *particularly* one that is obviously being read in manifestly bad faith.|last=Hayes|first=Chris|date=2017-12-04|language=en|archive-url=|archive-date=|dead-url=|access-date=2017-12-05}}</ref> Actress Sarah Silverman also tweeted in support of Seder.{{#tag:ref|Sarah Silverman's tweet: "Yo @msnbc ur gonna let Mr Pizzagate be ur moral compass?"<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/>|group=N}}
 
==== Rehiring ====
There was considerable dissent within MSNBC over the termination.<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/><ref name=CNNMSNBCRehiresSamSeder/> Employees worried firing Seder incented other far-right personalities to launch similar smear campaigns.<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/><ref name=CNNMSNBCRehiresSamSeder/> A senior MSNBC employee characterized the capitulation as "really weak" and "pathetic."<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/><ref name=CNNMSNBCRehiresSamSeder/> MSNBC's management itself was unsettled by the celebratory reaction from the far-right.<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/><ref name=CNNMSNBCRehiresSamSeder/> On December 7, 2017, MSNBC decided to reverse their decision to terminate Seder's employment. MSNBC President Phil Griffin said in a statement, "Sometimes you just get one wrong, and that's what happened here. We made our initial decision for the right reasons—because we don't consider rape to be a funny topic to be joked about. But we've heard the feedback, and we understand the point Sam was trying to make in that tweet was actually in line with our values, even though the language was not. Sam will be welcome on our air going forward."<ref name=PoliticoMSNBCrehiresSeder/><ref name=Variety>{{cite web |url=https://variety.com/2017/tv/news/msnbc-reverses-course-contributor-sam-seder-1202632936/|title= MSNBC Reverses Course on Contributor Sam Seder |work=Variety |publisher= Penske Media Corporation |date=2017-12-07 |accessdate=2017-12-10}}</ref> In response, Seder issued a statement while accepting his job back:
 
{{quote|I appreciate MSNBC's thoughtful reconsideration and willingness to understand the cynical motives of those who intentionally misrepresented my tweet for their own toxic, political purposes ... We are experiencing an important and long overdue moment of empowerment for the victims of sexual assault and of reckoning for their perpetrators. I'm proud that MSNBC and its staff have set a clear example of the need to get it right.<ref name=TheInterceptMSNBCrehiresSeder/><ref name=Variety/>{{#tag:ref|Seder further elaborated on this statement in a phone interview with The New York Times: "I think [MSNBC] messed up, and I think they hopefully learned a lesson that you have to make an assessment on the substance. Media outlets in general have been very reluctant to do that, and I think it's become so much more important in this era, both because of technology and because of, frankly, the depravity of some elements of our society."<ref name=NYTMSNBCRehiresSamSeder/>|group=N}}}}
 
{{Quote box|quote=If you decide to let this guy be the arbiter of what is and is not appropriate, understand who he is. |source=—Sam Seder, on the three-minute video he plans to produce on Cernovich.<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/>|salign=center |width=25% |align=right |style=padding:8px;}}
''Columbia Journalism Review'' cited the incident as an example of a broader pattern of far-right media personalities using online smear campaigns to get mainstream journalists fired.<ref name=CJR>{{Cite news|last=Vernon|first=Pete|url=https://www.cjr.org/the_media_today/trump-fake-news-global-impact-libya-royhingya.php |title= The media today: Trump's 'fake news' attacks have global impact|date=2017-12-05|work=Columbia Journalism Review|publisher=Columbia University|accessdate=2017-12-10|language=en-US}}</ref> Cernovich, who also promoted the Pizzagate conspiracy theory, insisted "date rape doesn't exist" and was himself arrested for rape (though subsequently pleading guilty to battery), acknowledged that "some are saying Seder was making a joke or being sarcastic."<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/><ref name=MSNBCdupedbysmearcampaignofSederbyDateRapistMikeCernovich/> However, he still insisted he didn't misrepresent the tweet and that he simply "reported on what [Seder] said."<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/> He later admitted that the whole incident was a stunt{{#tag:ref|"The left isn't going to stop going through our tweets so we aren't going to stop going through theirs," Cernovich said. "I wish we would get over people trying to find someone saying a naughty thing. I've been saying that for years. And nobody wants to listen. So fine, we will play by the same rules."<ref name=CNNHowAJoke/>|group=N}} while claiming victory explaining, retroactively, it was meant to bring attention to what he perceived was a double standard and a lack of "diversity of viewpoint"{{#tag:ref|"EVERY media article has defended Sam Seder's right to make child rape 'jokes' that would get anyone else fired, but yeah there is no media narrative at all, and there's totally a diversity of viewpoint in the media. Yes, sure thing guys, we totally buy that." —Mike Cernovich<ref name=PoliticoMSNBCrehiresSeder/>|group=N}} in the media.<ref name=PoliticoMSNBCrehiresSeder/> He also sarcastically tweeted that he was "thrilled" MSNBC offered Seder his job back while threatening to "bring Sam Seder's Tweet out every time the media goes after someone else for a Tweet."{{#tag:ref|"I'm thrilled MSNBC has made the decision that people shouldn't be fired over satirical tweets," Cernovich said on Twitter. "This rule will surely be applied equally to all sides, and if it's not, we will bring Sam Seder's Tweet out every time the media goes after someone else for a Tweet."<ref name=CNNMSNBCRehiresSamSeder/>|group=N}} On December 9, 2017, having failed to get Seder fired, Cernovich claimed that his wife was being stalked at the behest of the media.<ref>{{Cite web |url=https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/939209035949076480 |title= My wife is being stalked, and the media is encouraging this campaign of terror |date=2017-12-09|work=Twitter|accessdate=2017-12-10 |archiveurl=https://archive.org/details/Cernovichstatus939209035949076480 |archivedate=2017-12-10 |deadurl=no}}</ref>


=== 2020 presidential election ===
=== 2020 presidential election ===

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Sam Seder
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Personal Details
Birth: (1966-11-28) November 28, 1966 (age 58)
New York City, U.S.
Occupation:
  • Comedian
  • writer
  • director
  • radio personality
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Samuel Lincoln Seder (born November 28, 1966) is an American comedian, writer, actor, film director, television producer, progressive talk radio host, and possible 2020 Libertarian presidential candidate[1].

Early life

Seder was born to a Jewish family[2] in New York City, and was raised in Worcester, Massachusetts.[3]

Career

Seder currently works, or has worked, for multiple liberal and progressive networks/programs throughout the course of his career. In March 2004, Seder became co-host of Air America Radio's The Majority Report alongside Janeane Garofalo.

In November 2010, Seder began an independent online podcast, also called the Majority Report. The live talk-show format closely matches the previous Air America program, with politically oriented commentary by Seder and co-hosts and interviews with various guests. Seder offers listeners different tiered levels of access to content around the show via crowdfunding platform Patreon.

Seder also has worked as a periodic political contributor for MSNBC.[4][5]

2020 presidential election

In January 24, 2019, Seder announced his intention be a candidate in the Libertarian Party primary for the 2020 presidential election, as a satirical candidate due to his opposition to American libertarians. He subsequently announced his intention to challenge incumbent senator Chuck Schumer for the Democratic Party nomination for the 2022 New York Senate election.[1]

Personal life

In the closing minutes of their Wednesday, March 9, 2005 show, Garofalo announced that Seder and his wife Nikki were expecting a daughter. This event in his life slightly colored and affected Seder's commentary. On more than one occasion he has voiced concerns about just how he was going to explain elements of this world to his daughter as she grows up, after witnessing actions by the Republican Party that Seder felt might adversely affect her future. On August 9, 2005, Nikki Seder gave birth to a daughter, Myla Rae Seder.

On March 7, 2013, the family gave birth to their second child, a son named Saul Arthur Seder.[6]

On April 27, 2018, Seder announced on his daily podcast, The Majority Report with Sam Seder, that he and his wife were separated.

References

Notes


Footnotes

Bibliography

  • F.U.B.A.R.: America's Right-Wing Nightmare

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