LPedia:Requests for Deletion/Order of the Arrow

Request for Deletion Archive The following is an archived deletion discussion. It is an archive, do not edit. Result: Page has been deleted. CarynAnnHarlos (talk) 18:24, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Order of the Arrow

This page has no relevance to the Libertarian Party or its history. The mere fact of having Libertarian/libertarians in its past membership, even notable ones, is not enough to make it relevant. CarynAnnHarlos (talk) 05:45, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

• Delete Full disclosure -- when I was working on Wikipedia long ago I was an adamant inclusionist and would still be if I hadn't walked away from it, but I'm unable to serve as this article's defense counsel.

I might be able to entertain the possibility of this organization being relevant if there could be ties to the party (or at least libertarian political thought or a relevant political yardstick for comparison), such as potentially being an incubator for libertarians. Unfortunately, this article is almost verbatim from Wikipedia and practically none of its present content can be argued as relevant for LPedia -- the closest I can see is that mention of being with the Order of the Arrow might be something to include in LPedia biographies of its historical membership. I can make no case for this article being on LPedia, at least not short of what would amount to a from-scratch rewrite anyway. What relevance might this organization have? I have no idea. I'm not familiar with this subject, and the article itself can't make the argument on its own.

Also, if deleted, practically no original content will be lost as it's all still on Wikipedia and it seems to be as secure in its continued existence there as anything ever is, so I can't even defend it on the grounds of finding it a new home before removing it from here.

Our standards for inclusion are pretty low, but there is one essential: There needs to be some relevance towards the Libertarian Party -- however tenuous -- and this is a minimum of one complete remove from this, at least in its present form. -- Strangelv (talk) 10:46, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

• Delete per nominator. The article is irrelevant to the Libertarian Party. AMK152 (talk) 14:12, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

• DeleteThe mention of membership is perfectly relevant under the pages of any Libertarians - but not as a stand-along article. Otherwise my Church could be a stand-alone article, it has a state chair and LNC member attending (well we are pretty bad at attendance right now, but I think you know what I mean - our membership or attendance doesn't make an organization notable for LPedia.CarynAnnHarlos (talk) 03:51, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

• Delete I agree the article is irrelevant to the Libertarian Party. Starchild (talk) 05:30, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

• Delete Maybe make it a Category, with just a link to the Wikipedia article on the category page? Or a Userbox? Miros (talk) 14:39, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

• This would totally work as a topic for a userbox! -- Strangelv (talk) 07:04, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

• Delete Ditto to "when I was working on Wikipedia long ago I was an adamant inclusionist" but... Not only irrelevant but falsely calls several people "libertarians" who aren't. Like 4 presidents... LP-1979 (talk) 21:03, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

• Delete Another problem with this page is that it makes the claim that several past Presidents of the United States were "Libertarians". No reasoning or references are presented to back this up. As this may be the only part of this article that is actually providing "information" that isn't available in the Wikipedia version (or could easily be added there), the existence of this claim appears to be the only reason for this page to exist. (Otherwise, why not simply link to the Wikipedia article anywhere that a reference to this organization might be appropriate, for any reason.) And posting dubious and unsupported claims about politicians who themselves identified as members of another party is not a good reason for a page to exist here. JWD3 (talk) 10:10, 30 May 2017 (UTC)