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Andrew did you see the notes I put on the deletion page?  Ultimate decision power (veto) has to vest in the committee- the was understood in the committee creation for administration of LPedia.  If you could note that as you see appropriate on the instruction page.  I see very few circumstances (if any) that it would become an issue and all such decisions (unless they fell within the very very narrow categories in the LNC policy manual for executive session) would be done fully and openly on the appropriate discussion page or in open meeting. [[User:CarynAnnHarlos|CarynAnnHarlos]] ([[User talk:CarynAnnHarlos|talk]]) 17:06, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Andrew did you see the notes I put on the deletion page?  Ultimate decision power (veto) has to vest in the committee- the was understood in the committee creation for administration of LPedia.  If you could note that as you see appropriate on the instruction page.  I see very few circumstances (if any) that it would become an issue and all such decisions (unless they fell within the very very narrow categories in the LNC policy manual for executive session) would be done fully and openly on the appropriate discussion page or in open meeting. [[User:CarynAnnHarlos|CarynAnnHarlos]] ([[User talk:CarynAnnHarlos|talk]]) 17:06, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
:*How is [http://lpedia.org/w/index.php?title=LPedia%3ARequests_for_Deletion&type=revision&diff=1485893&oldid=1485874 this revision?] [[User:AMK152|AMK152]] ([[User talk:AMK152|talk]]) 23:07, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
:*How is [http://lpedia.org/w/index.php?title=LPedia%3ARequests_for_Deletion&type=revision&diff=1485893&oldid=1485874 this revision?] [[User:AMK152|AMK152]] ([[User talk:AMK152|talk]]) 23:07, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
==NY Election results==
I'm confused about what you're doing with New York's election results. You've removed most of the US House and State Assembly results from the election results page and placed them onto a page for a list of candidates. There seems to me to be a difference between an election result and a list of candidates. Not all candidates have an election result due to not being eligible, for whatever reason. Someone like Percy Greaves (US Senate, 1974) was a candidate, but has no election results to report. An election results page is for candidates that participated in the election (although in a some instances we may not know the result.)
That distinction is used for Texas, which has both an election results page and a candidates list page.<br>
http://lpedia.org/Libertarian_Party_of_Texas_Historical_Election_Results<br>
http://lpedia.org/List_of_Texas_Candidates
The election results you did not remove from the New York election results page were presumably left there because the result I had listed on the election results page differed from the result you had listed on the candidates page. Here are my sources:
The difference in percent for Stephen Finder, US House, 2006 is due to my excluding blank and void votes from the denominator while you included them. I excluded blank and void votes when calculating the percent for all candidates, in every state.<br>
https://www.elections.ny.gov/NYSBOE/elections/2006/general/2006_cong.pdf
That is what accounts for the difference in most percentages from the method you used and the method that I used for NY and every other state. It happened in a lot of instances, which were largely deleted when you removed the US House and state assembly election results. For example, James Smith, 2016, assembly district 5, you gave 1.384% and I gave 1.57% because I removed blank and void votes from the total.<br>
https://www.elections.ny.gov/NYSBOE/elections/2016/General/2016Assembly.pdf
Nic Leobold ran in district 66 in 2004, not district 64<br>
https://www.elections.ny.gov/NYSBOE/elections/2004/assembly04.pdf
My source for 506 votes for David Hoesly in district 130, 1984 is here:<br>
http://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=163166
ourcampaigns.com is not error free and it may be wrong. Is your source for 410 votes better?
And lastly, I'm not sure we ought to be including candidates who did not run as Libertarians (or, unaffiliated). Cross-endorsed (fusion) candidates are one thing, if the "Libertarian" label appeared on the ballot. But candidates who ran in a major party without the Libertarian label seems too distant from the Libertarian Party. Georgia's election results page doesn't include Bob Barr, Texas' doesn't include Ron Paul (although it makes a note of when he ran, it doesn't list his results running as a Republican as if they were Libertarian election results), Alaska's page doesn't include Mike Gravel... I'm not convinced John Kevin Wilson (2012, State Assembly 37) belongs here. [[User:AJPEG|AJPEG]] ([[User talk:AJPEG|talk]]) 18:29, 13 July 2017 (CDT)

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Categories

I'm trying to figure out some of the categories you've created. They seem to mostly duplicate other categories that we already have. I'm unsure about having a National Affiliates category in addition to a State Parties category, for example.

Admittedly, tinkering on categories is kind of problematic when we can't see what's been added to them since January... Hopefully that will be fixed soon. -- Strangelv (talk) 09:58, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

We would need to establish category naming conventions. A national affiliate category would categorize all national parties, but having a state party's category should categorize the 51 U.S. state parties (like on Wikipedia). I don't think they should be combined. 13:37, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay in responding. I just put together this page if it's of any immediate help. -- Strangelv (talk) 15:18, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
How is the issue with the categories not showing up coming along? AMK152 (talk) 20:59, 9 April 2017 (UTC)


You have been kicking ass.

CarynAnnHarlos (talk) 02:05, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Input on Requests for Deletion Page Requested

Let me know if I am doing it right. CarynAnnHarlos (talk) 05:48, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Followup

Andrew did you see the notes I put on the deletion page? Ultimate decision power (veto) has to vest in the committee- the was understood in the committee creation for administration of LPedia. If you could note that as you see appropriate on the instruction page. I see very few circumstances (if any) that it would become an issue and all such decisions (unless they fell within the very very narrow categories in the LNC policy manual for executive session) would be done fully and openly on the appropriate discussion page or in open meeting. CarynAnnHarlos (talk) 17:06, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

NY Election results

I'm confused about what you're doing with New York's election results. You've removed most of the US House and State Assembly results from the election results page and placed them onto a page for a list of candidates. There seems to me to be a difference between an election result and a list of candidates. Not all candidates have an election result due to not being eligible, for whatever reason. Someone like Percy Greaves (US Senate, 1974) was a candidate, but has no election results to report. An election results page is for candidates that participated in the election (although in a some instances we may not know the result.)

That distinction is used for Texas, which has both an election results page and a candidates list page.
http://lpedia.org/Libertarian_Party_of_Texas_Historical_Election_Results
http://lpedia.org/List_of_Texas_Candidates

The election results you did not remove from the New York election results page were presumably left there because the result I had listed on the election results page differed from the result you had listed on the candidates page. Here are my sources:

The difference in percent for Stephen Finder, US House, 2006 is due to my excluding blank and void votes from the denominator while you included them. I excluded blank and void votes when calculating the percent for all candidates, in every state.
https://www.elections.ny.gov/NYSBOE/elections/2006/general/2006_cong.pdf

That is what accounts for the difference in most percentages from the method you used and the method that I used for NY and every other state. It happened in a lot of instances, which were largely deleted when you removed the US House and state assembly election results. For example, James Smith, 2016, assembly district 5, you gave 1.384% and I gave 1.57% because I removed blank and void votes from the total.
https://www.elections.ny.gov/NYSBOE/elections/2016/General/2016Assembly.pdf

Nic Leobold ran in district 66 in 2004, not district 64
https://www.elections.ny.gov/NYSBOE/elections/2004/assembly04.pdf

My source for 506 votes for David Hoesly in district 130, 1984 is here:
http://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=163166

ourcampaigns.com is not error free and it may be wrong. Is your source for 410 votes better?

And lastly, I'm not sure we ought to be including candidates who did not run as Libertarians (or, unaffiliated). Cross-endorsed (fusion) candidates are one thing, if the "Libertarian" label appeared on the ballot. But candidates who ran in a major party without the Libertarian label seems too distant from the Libertarian Party. Georgia's election results page doesn't include Bob Barr, Texas' doesn't include Ron Paul (although it makes a note of when he ran, it doesn't list his results running as a Republican as if they were Libertarian election results), Alaska's page doesn't include Mike Gravel... I'm not convinced John Kevin Wilson (2012, State Assembly 37) belongs here. AJPEG (talk) 18:29, 13 July 2017 (CDT)